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ENGLAND Edward IV King Of

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  • Birth  28 Apr 1442  Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened  Cathedrale, Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Died  9 Apr 1483  Palace, Westminster, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried  18 Apr 1483  St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • From: royalancestry@msn.com (Douglas Richardson)

      A few days ago, I posted a list of the known illegitimate children of
      Edward IV, King of England (died 1483). Since posting, I've been
      contacted by two newsgroup members each of whom has added a new
      potential illegitimate child of King Edward IV. On my own, I've found
      additional sources for two of the previously identified illegitimate
      children. I've also found a reference to yet another alleged
      illegitimate daughter in a late visitation who reputedly married into
      the Musgrave family. I haven't included that child in the list below,
      as I haven't yet confirmed that such a child and marriage occurred.

      If anyone has anything to add to the information below or possesses
      any information on a possible illegitimate daughter who married a
      Musgrave, please post that information here on the newsgroup or
      contact me at my e-mail address below.

      Many thanks to Peter Sutton and James Trabue for sharing their
      information with me.

      Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

      E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com

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      List of Illegitimate Children of King Edward IV

      Illegitimate child of Edward IV of England, by an unknown mistress,
      possibly Elizabeth Lucy:

      i. ELIZABETH PLANTAGENET, married before 1477 THOMAS LUMLEY, Knt., son
      and heir apparent of George Lumley, Knt., Lord Lumley, by Elizabeth,
      daughter and heiress of Roger Thornton, Esq. They had four sons,
      Richard [Lord Lumley], John, George, and Roger, Esq., and three
      daughters, Anne (wife of Robert Ogle, 4th Lord Ogle), Sibyl (wife of
      William Hilton, Knt., de jure 9th Lord Hylton), and Elizabeth (wife of
      Robert Cresswell, Esq.). SIR THOMAS LUMLEY was living 27 Oct. 1495,
      and died prior to 1507. Descendants (not traced). [Note: Additional
      evidence of Elizabeth's parentage may be seen in the papal
      dispensation granted in 1489 for Elizabeth's son, Richard Lumley, to
      marry Anne Conyers, they being related in the [3rd and] 4th degree of
      kindred. A dispensation was needed for this marriage, as the two
      parties were both descended from Ralph Neville, K.G., 1st Earl of
      Westmorland, and his wife, Joan Beaufort (see Testamenta Eboracensia 3
      (Surtees Soc., vol. 45) (1865): 355)]. Collins-Brydges, Peerage of
      England 3 (1812): 703 (citing MS. E. 6, f. 5, b. in Offic. Arm.). R.
      Surtees, Hist. & Antiq. of the County Palatine of Durham 2 (1820): 139
      (Lumley monument in Chester-le-Street, co. Durham church: " ... inde
      pater efficitur illius Thomae qui ex magni Regis Edovardi quarti filia
      naturali, Richardum susceperat ..."), 140 (monumental inscription at
      Chester-le-Street: "Sir Thomas Lumley, Knight, sonne of George Lord
      Lumley, maried Elizabeth, daughter naturel to Kinge Edwarde the
      fourth, and he died in the life of his father, and had issue Richard
      Lord Lumley") (Elizabeth's arms: 1. France and England; 2. a plain
      cross of Ulster; 3. as 2; 4. barry of six, on a chief three pallets,
      between two esquires' bastions, dexter and sinister, an inescutcheon
      Argent, Mortimer, over all a bar sinister), 162-164 (Lumley chart).
      Surtees Soc. 41 (1862): 27 (1530 Vis. Durham) (Lumley pedigree:
      "Thomas Lumley, son and heyre to George, maried Elisabeth, bastard
      doughter to Kyng Edward the iiijth"). R. Surtees, Hist. & Antiq. of
      the County Palatine of Durham 2 (1820): 163-164. H.S.P. 16 (1881):
      189-190 (1563/4 Vis. Yorkshire) (Lumley pedigree: "Thomas Lord Lomley
      son & heyr to George = Elsabeth bastard doughter to Kyng Edward the
      Fourth"). J. Foster, Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of the
      County Palatine of Durham (1887), pg. 216 (Lumley pedigree: "Thomas
      Lumley, son and heire = Elizabeth, bastard dau. of Edward IV"). C.P.
      7 (1929): 30 (sub Hylton); 8 (1932): 274 (sub Lumley); 10 (1945):
      33-34. TAG 50 (1974): 81-86. M.S. Byrne, The Lisle Letters (1981)
      [citing Harleian MS. 4033, f. 21 (23) v; Leland's Itinerary VI, f.
      63]. Chris Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of Medieval
      England (1984), pp. 160-161,179.

      Illegitimate child of Edward IV of England, by a mistress, Elizabeth
      Wayte:

      i. ARTHUR PLANTAGENET (otherwise ARTHUR WAYTE), K.G., King’s
      Spear, Esquire of the Body, Sheriff of Hampshire, Vice-Admiral of
      England, Trier of Petitions in Parliament, Governor of Calais, Warden
      of the Cinque Ports, Privy Councillor, born say 1475 (presumed to be
      “my Lord the Bastard” mentioned in an Exchequer account
      dated 1477, first occurs as an adult in 1501). He married (1st) 12
      Nov. 1511 ELIZABETH GREY, suo jure Baroness Lisle, widow of Edmund
      Dudley, Esq. (beheaded 18 Aug. 1510), and daughter and heiress of
      Edward Grey, Knt., Viscount Lisle, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth,
      daughter of John Talbot, Knt., Viscount Lisle. They had three
      daughters, Frances (wife of John Basset and Thomas Monke), Elizabeth
      (wife of Francis Jobson, Knt), and Bridget (wife of William Carden,
      Knt.). In 1514 he was captain of the Vice-Admiral's ship "Trinity
      Sovereign." He attended the King at the Field of Cloth of Gold in
      1520. In consequence of his marriage, he was created 25 Apr. 1523
      Viscount Lisle. In 1528 he purchased the manors of Segenworth, Chark,
      Lee, Sutton, West Stratton, etc., Hampshire from his cousin, John
      Wayte, Esq., of Titchfield. Arthur married (2nd) in 1529 Honor
      Grenville, widow of John Basset, Knt. (died 31 Jan. 1522/9), and
      daughter of Thomas Grenville, Knt., by his 1st wife, Isabel, daughter
      of Otes Gilbert, Knt. They had no issue. He was imprisoned in the
      Tower of London on suspicion of treason 19 May 1540. SIR ARTHUR
      PLANTAGENET, Viscount Lisle, died there 3 Mar. 1541/2. His widow,
      Honor, was buried at Logan, Cornwall 30 Apr. 1566. Modern descendants
      (not traced). J. Burke, General & Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages
      ... Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance (1831), pp. 433,513-514. G.F.
      Beltz, Memorials of the Most Noble Order of the Garter (1841), pg.
      clxxii. H.S.P. 2 (1870): 74-75 (1619 Vis. Leicester) (Gray pedigree:
      "Elizab. [Gray] Nupta Edm. Dudley postea Arthur Plantagenet"); 16
      (1881): 308-310 (1563/4 Vis. Yorkshire) (Talbot pedigree: "Elsabeth
      [Talbot] doughter & sole heyre [1] = Edmond Dudley on of the Prevy
      Consell to Kyng Henry 7th., [2]= Arthur Plantagenet bastard son to
      Edward IV. 2 husband"). J.L. Vivian, Visitations of the County of
      Devon (1895), pp. 46-47,569. D.N.B. 15 (1909): 1285-1287 (biog. of
      Arthur Plantagenet). List of Early Chan. Proc. 5 (1912):
      288,358,465,472.473; 6 (1922): 109,134. C.L. Scofield, Life and Reign
      of Edward the Fourth 2 (1923): 56,161. C.P. 8 (1932): 63-68 (sub
      Lisle). Cal. of Ancient Deeds - Series B Pt. 3 (List & Index Soc.,
      vol. 113) (1975): B.10780, B.12180. Ancient Deeds Series BB (List &
      Index Soc., vol. 137) (1977), pp. 80-81,83,90. M.S. Byrne, The Lisle
      Letters 2 (1981): 63 (Arthur Plantagenet styled "cousin" by Margaret
      Pole, Countess of Salisbury); 1 (1981): 481, 4{1981): 140 (instances
      of Henry Pole, Lord Montagu, styled "cousin" to Arthur Plantagenet).
      Exchequer Ancient Deeds - DD Series (List & Index Soc., vol. 200)
      (1983), pp. 193,207. C. Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of
      Medieval England (1984), pp. 158,161-174.

      Alleged illegitimate children of Edward IV of England, by an unknown
      mistress (or mistresses), _____:

      i. GRACE PLANTAGENET, said to be present in 1492 on the funeral barge
      of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, widow of King Edward IV. C. Ross,
      Edward IV (1974), pg. 316, foonote 2 (citing BM Arundel MS. 26, ff.
      29v-30v). C. Given-Wilson & A. Curteis, Royal Bastards of Medieval
      England (1984), pp. 158,161-174.

      ii. _____ PLANTAGENET (daughter), married (as his 1st wife) JOHN
      AUDLEY (or TUCHET), younger son of John Audley (or Tuchet), Knt., 6th
      Lord Audley, Lord Treasurer of England, by Anne, daughter of Thomas
      Echingham, Knt. They had no issue. Collections for a History of
      Staffordshire n.s. 12 (1909): 229. MS. pedigree of Audley family
      dated 1618 on file at the William SaltCollection at the William Salt
      Library in Stafford, England. (These citations kindly provided by
      Peter Sutton).

      iii. MARY PLANTAGENET, married after 1485 (as his 2nd wife) HENRY
      HARMAN, of Ellam (in Crayford), Kent, Clerk of the Crown to King Henry
      VII, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Harman. HENRY HARMAN left a will
      dated 1501, proved 1502 (P.C.C., 15 Blamyr), naming his deceased wife,
      Agnes, his living wife, Mary, and eleven children, George, William,
      Thomas, Roger, John, Henry, Robert, Elizabeth (wife of _____ Sparke),
      Alice, Beatrice, and Anne. The maternity of the children is
      uncertain, but at least the two youngest sons were by Henry Harman's
      last wife, Mary, as indicated by Henry's will. Misc. Gen. et Her. 4th
      ser. 2 (1908): 227-228 (Harman pedigree) (no identification of wives).
      H.S.P. 74 (1923): 61-62 (1574 Vis. Kent) (Harman pedigree: "Henry
      Harman Clarke of ye Crowne vnto H: 7 ... This man [Henry Harman] was
      H: 7 man to whome he gaue the clarkeship of the Crowne and with all
      gaue him the Crest belowe*, depick[t]ed one his armes which Crist was
      giuen him after hee had maried with E: 4 daughter") (The latter
      citation kindly supplied by James Trabue).

      Below is a list of the illegitimate children of King Edward IV of
      England taken from variety of sources. The list includes no new
      names, but I've commented on additional evidence which appears to
      prove the parentage of Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Lumley. Gary Boyd
      Roberts's useful book, RD 500, indicates that there are American
      descendants of Elizabeth Lumley.

      There seems to be confusion in surviving records between King Edward
      IV's mistresses, Dame Elizabeth Lucy and Elizabeth Wayte. I suspect
      the two women were separate and distinct individuals. King Edward IV
      is alleged to have had issue by Elizabeth Lucy prior to his marriage
      to Queen Elizabeth Wydeville in 1464. I presume that issue was King
      Edward IV's bastard daughter, Elizabeth Lumley, who married in or
      before 1477. Elizabeth Wayte's son, Arthur, on the other hand,
      doesn't occur in records as an adult until 1501 and didn't marry until
      1511. This suggests a rather wide gap in ages between the two
      bastards, Elizabeth Lumley and Arthur Plantagenet. My best guess is
      that Elizabeth Lumley was born say 1460/2 and that Arthur Plantagenet
      was born say 1475.

      If anyone has any corrections or additions to the list below, I'd
      appreciate it if they would post them here on the newsgroup.

      Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

      E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
    Person ID  I883  Royal Family of Europe
    Last Modified  15 Mar 2003 

    Father  PLANTAGENET Richard,   b. 20 Sep 1411, Of, Conisbrough Castle, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Dec 1460, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  NEVILLE Cecily,   b. 31 May 1415, Raby, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 May 1495, Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  Bef 18 Oct 1424  , , Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F61  Group Sheet

    Family 1  WAYTE Elizabeth 
    Married  NOT MARRIED  Not Married Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F1571  Group Sheet

    Family 2  WAYTE Elizabeth 
    Married  Not Married Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    >1. PLANTAGENET Elizabeth,   b. Abt 1460, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID  F1565  Group Sheet

    Family 3  WYDEVILLE Elizabeth,   b. Abt 1437, Of, Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 Jun 1492, Bermondsey Abbey Bermondsey, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  1 May 1464  , Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    >1. ENGLAND Elizabeth of York Queen Of,   b. 11 Feb 1465, Westminster Palace, Westminster, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Feb 1502/1503, Tower of London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. ENGLAND Mary Princess Of,   b. Aug 1466, Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 May 1482
     3. ENGLAND Cecily Princess Of,   b. 20 Mar 1468/1469, Of, Westminster, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Aug 1507, Abbey, Quarr, Isle Of Wight, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. ENGLAND Edward V King Of,   b. 4 Nov 1470, Sanctuary, Westminster, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jul 1483, Tower Of London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. ENGLAND Margaret Princess Of,   b. 10 Apr 1472, Of, Westminster, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Dec 1472
     6. ENGLAND Richard Prince Of,   b. 17 Aug 1473, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Jul 1483, Tower Of London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. ENGLAND Anne Princess Of,   b. 2 Nov 1475, , Westminster, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 22 Nov 1511, , Framlingham, Suffolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     8. ENGLAND George Prince Of,   b. Mar 1476/1477, Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1481
     9. ENGLAND Catherine Princess of,   b. Abt 14 Aug 1479, , Eltham, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Nov 1527, Castle, Tiverton, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     10. ENGLAND Bridget Princess Of,   b. 10 Nov 1480, , Eltham, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1517
    Family ID  F38  Group Sheet

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